Her Story
About Ashley
I started in the service industry and never thought I'd work corporate until my own terrible home-buying experience changed everything. In 2015, I purchased my first house using Zillow as a foster child at a young age, and the agent, inspector, and lender all lied to me, costing me hundreds of thousands of dollars. I essentially bought a lemon. After I moved in, the heater broke in the dead of winter, the pipes froze, the house flooded, and the electricity stopped working. I was walking into 24 Hour Fitness to use their water when Zillow's recruiting team called me again after two years of trying to recruit me. They shared that 53% of the time when a customer goes onto Zillow, nothing happens, and as the very angry customer, that finally hooked me. At Zillow, I helped start several different organizations from the ground up, specializing in removing ambiguity and creating processes and frameworks so people can execute very fast and make data-driven decisions instead of thoughts and feelings that could cost millions of dollars. I took average national conversion rates from 3% to over 20% by teaching agents how to focus on the human element and not overthink their processes. I also helped brokerages understand how to be leaders through change management, planning, and accountability, showing them they could still hold 1099 employees accountable. One of my proudest moments was when Zillow wanted me to fire a handful of partners. When broker owner Amy Fletcher in Colorado started cursing me out, I used my high EQ and tactical empathy to realize something was wrong. I discovered our internal reporting was flawed because we weren't extracting archived leads properly in our data subsets, which was causing us to promote or fire the wrong partners. I got an exception from Zillow, asked for 30 days and a couple million dollars to hold these partners, and proved I could coach them up. None of them got fired, I saved the company millions of dollars, and Amy is now the number one broker in Colorado at RE-MAX, speaking at their R4 event on accountability. Most recently at RentSpree, I did strategic partnerships with our largest brands and prop tech companies and secured our Zillow syndication because I'm still very close with the company. In May 2024, I left corporate to co-found Mentorical with Suzanne Sini, who used to work at Zillow and now runs Innovate Realty brokerage. We're building a growth platform for real estate entrepreneurs with nine different events on topics like AI optimization, lead generation from social media, and client nurturing. We're keeping sessions at only $99 each with toolkits, and offering a mentor program for $79 a month that gives agents 7 days a week access to support when they're in the middle of a deal and don't know what to do. I'm passionate about giving everyone equal access to growth strategies because for years, corporations controlled what I was allowed to share and who I could share it with. I want to even out the playing field so it's not just the premium partners who get the best strategies.
Her Interview
Ten minutes with Ashley
01What are the biggest challenges or opportunities in your field right now?
There's a lot of changes in today's market, especially with all the drama happening. You can see it all over LinkedIn if you're paying attention. What I'm seeing is that agents aren't taking advantage of opportunities that they could and should be, like AI optimization, getting found in ChatGPT, understanding how to actually nurture a client when using AI, and generating leads from social media. The biggest opportunity right now is helping people take power back in their market and understand the dynamics on how they can actually do that to take control of their business. For years, corporations controlled what I was allowed to share and who I was allowed to share it with. I would create sales conversion methodologies that would only go to premium partners when I knew it would be beneficial for everybody, but we would use that as a selling hook. The real opportunity is evening out the playing field and giving everybody equal access to a wide array of different growth strategies, not just trainings, but actual tactical tips that people can do right now. Every single month, especially in today's market, things need to change and evolve, and you constantly need to be innovating.
02What values are most important to you in your work and personal life?
Doing what's right is incredibly important to me, even when the data or the easy path suggests otherwise. I have a very high EQ and I like to lean on tactical empathy, which comes from the book Never Split the Difference by Chris Foss. When that broker owner Amy Fletcher was cursing me out, it would have been really easy for me to just say, well, sucks to suck, bye, I'm not gonna let you talk to me that way. But instead, I could feel something was wrong, and I did the research to find out what was really going on. I'm a big believer in having a keen eye and a sense to tell when something's off, even if the data looks like it's not. I'm really passionate about helping people and giving everyone equal access. I want to help give people power back in their market and even out the playing field. For years, I was creating things that would only go to premium partners when I knew it would be beneficial for everybody, and I want to change that. I'm focused on helping people understand how to focus on the human and not overthink their processes, so they can still be themselves while converting and growing their business.
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