Her Story
About Dr. Denise
I've dedicated 48 years to education, beginning my career as a special education teacher right after graduating from Northeastern in 1976. I went straight into getting my master's at CW Post College in special education, which was a new field at the time since the special ed law had just been enacted. After teaching for 8 years, I was promoted within my teaching position and then took an opportunity to work at the New York State Education Department in the Office of School Improvement for 3 years, where I helped underperforming schools become better by reviewing and monitoring them. I really missed the day-to-day work in the building, so I came back as assistant principal at elementary, intermediate, and then high school levels before becoming a principal for 9 years. I'm a turnaround specialist - my school was low-performing when I started, and we ended up almost making Blue Ribbon at the national level, but definitely at the state level. I earned my doctorate at Teachers College at Columbia with the goal of becoming a superintendent, because the numbers are still so low for women - only 1.7% of women of color are school superintendents and really only 4% of women in general. I retired as superintendent but opportunities kept coming. When I moved to New Jersey, I was asked to run for school board, and I'm now in my fourth term as a school board member. After the superintendency, I started my own business, All Children Can Learn LLC, because I am a turnaround specialist and I've been able to make schools work - every place I've gone, they've been better. For the last 14 years, I've been coaching building leaders at the building level, principals, superintendents, central office, and now board members, working with them to make them better because it's the combination of having a strong superintendent and a strong board working together to do what's right for children. My biggest contract has been with the Women of Color Education Collaborative, working with Morgan State since 2022, where we support women leaders and particularly women of color in the superintendency. I work with women to be their authentic selves, do what they need to do, focus on what's right for students, but most importantly, keep their jobs without compromising their values. I also work for Ray & Associates, a national search firm where we hire administrators for different roles.
Her Interview
Ten minutes with Dr. Denise
01What advice would you give to young women entering your industry?
I would say to young women entering education that you have to feel comfortable about your charge. Politics are everywhere, and politics are in education as well, but I sleep at night because I made decisions that were best for children. They were not popular, and people don't like it when I say it - I'm not here for the adults, I'm here for the kids. Many of our students across the country, whether in affluent communities or not, are still suffering. We still have post-COVID social-emotional needs and mental health issues to address. So what I would say is that you have to feel comfortable about your charge. I can sleep at night because I never compromise my values for children, and I will never do it. That could mean you lose your job, it could mean you're out of a job, it could mean you're not popular or people don't like you, but it doesn't matter. We're here for the children. They need us, and they need us to advocate and to be strong for them and not compromise. So hold your ground for kids. We can never go wrong doing that.
02What are the biggest challenges or opportunities in your field right now?
The challenges right now are those boxes and holes with leadership in general, whether you're male or female. The politics of education is a major challenge, and with school board members, many are running and becoming board members for the wrong reasons. That's why I'm taking on this position as governance chair - my focus is to remind board members what we're here for: policy, appraisal, and supporting the superintendent. We're stewards of the tax dollars, and at budget time we should be entitled to ask questions, but we're not going to interfere with the day-to-day running of the professionals. There's a really fine line, and I see that mind shifting. Today it's so difficult because people are so concerned about books, and your hair, and what you're wearing, and what you look like, and the appearance, but none of that means anything. I do see our young people so concerned about the appearances and the superficial things that ultimately, at the end of the day, don't matter, but it's really hard. It's just the times. So my advice is to be your authentic self. Authenticity, unfortunately, I feel has been lost, but you can only be your authentic self. And if people don't like your authentic self, they're not for you.
03What values are most important to you in your work and personal life?
Family is everything to me. I've been blessed - my mom passed 3 years ago, but my family is so special and unique. My grandfather was part of the Northern Migration, moving from Greenwood, South Carolina, up to Philadelphia with his 9 children. They were always tight, and they really enacted in us the importance of family. My cousin said recently when we were driving back from a family event that the aunts would be proud - we are such a strong family, we love being together, we love eating, and we love supporting each other. I'm an only child, and while I came from a large family where many of my cousins were 3 or 4 in their family, family and friends are what's important to me. I really do think this generation is lost in reference to longtime friends. I graduated from Northeastern in 1976, and this year in April, my friends who I met - one I've known since junior high, another we met at 18 on the dorm - we just celebrated our golden graduates at Northeastern. We've been friends since then, and it's so important to keep those relationships. These people know every ounce of my life. I can talk to them about anything and everything. So family and friends are what's really most important to me.
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