Her Story
About Holly
I’m also in recovery myself. I started using at 15 years old, long before I understood what addiction even was. My own journey hasn’t been easy, but I’ve been in recovery for 23 years now. That lived experience is a huge part of why I do this work the way I do — direct, honest, and without judgment. I know what it feels like to be stuck, to feel ashamed, and to wonder if life can ever look different. I also know what it feels like to rebuild.
My background isn’t polished or traditional. Before I ever stepped into the recovery field, I worked physical jobs — waiting tables, flagging traffic for construction crews, working hotel rec rooms, and bouncing between restaurants. Those years taught me grit, empathy, and how to connect with people from every walk of life. Those skills ended up being just as important as anything I learned in school.
Today, I bring both my professional training and my lived experience into every session, every group, and every conversation. I understand my clients because I’ve been on the other side of the table. I know change is possible because I’ve lived it.
Outside of work, I’ve been a competitive pool player for 17 years — it’s my outlet and my reset. And now, with Rise From Ruin, I’m stepping into a new way of helping people. My goal is to reach anyone who feels alone in their struggle and remind them that recovery is real, that stigma doesn’t get the final say, and that life after addiction is not only possible — it’s worth fighting for.
Her Interview
Ten minutes with Holly
01What do you attribute your success to?
I contribute my success to consistency — the kind of consistency that people can feel. For twenty years, I’ve shown up the same way, every day, for people who often expect the opposite. My expectations don’t shift with mood or circumstance. My boundaries don’t wobble. My clients always know exactly who they’re walking into the room with.
But consistency only matters when it’s paired with absolute non‑judgment. I don’t shame people for where they’re starting. I don’t punish them for setbacks. I don’t expect them to arrive motivated or ready. Most of my clients don’t want to be in treatment at first — and that’s okay. What they find is someone who isn’t the court, isn’t the system, and isn’t there to label them. I’m there to meet them where they are and help them move forward from that exact point.
My success comes from being the one steady, judgment‑free place in a process that can feel overwhelming and punitive. I don’t change. I don’t waiver. I don’t judge. And for many people, that’s the first time they’ve ever experienced that kind of stability.
02What’s the best career advice you’ve ever received?
The best career advice I ever received was this:
“Sometimes we just need C students.”
It changed the way I understood my work. In this field, it’s easy to expect perfection — perfect attendance, perfect follow‑through, perfect motivation. But the truth is, for many people, their best is average. Their best is showing up even when they don’t want to. Their best is trying again after a setback. Their best is doing a little better than yesterday, even if it doesn’t look impressive on paper.
That advice taught me to stop expecting perfection from my clients and to recognize that everyone’s “best” looks different. It reminded me that growth doesn’t always look like an A+. Sometimes the bravest thing a person can do is give what they have — even if it’s not much that day.
And when you honor that, when you meet people where they truly are instead of where you think they should be, that’s when real change becomes possible.
03What advice would you give to young women entering your industry?
Over the years, I’ve supervised a lot of interns, and almost all of them come in wanting to work in residential or inpatient treatment. Those settings feel big, intense, and important — and they are. But what I always tell them is this: every level of care matters. The same people you see in residential are the same people you meet at the very beginning of their journey.
If we don’t do a good job at the front end — in outpatient, education, court‑ordered programs, early intervention — their disease will continue to progress. The work we do before someone ever reaches a residential bed is just as critical as the work done inside those walls.
So my advice to women entering this field is simple and grounded in reality:
However you can get into the field, however you can show up for people, it matters.
Every conversation, every group, every assessment, every moment of connection is part of someone’s recovery story.
There is no “less important” level of care.
There is only impact — and you can make it at every stage.
04What are the biggest challenges or opportunities in your field right now?
One of the biggest challenges in the addiction recovery field right now is the pay scale. There simply isn’t enough income or enough opportunity for people to truly thrive in this work. We’re supporting individuals at their lowest points, walking with them through legal consequences, relapse, shame, and rebuilding — and yet this is not a field where you’re going to get rich. The financial limitations make it incredibly difficult to attract and retain talented professionals in a field where the work is so critical.
Another challenge is the stigma — even within the profession itself. When I started, you could operate independently with a high school diploma and a CAC II. I went on to earn my bachelor’s degree, completed every state‑mandated training, put in 5,000 internship hours, and became a Certified Addiction Specialist. I’ve been in recovery for 23 years and have helped thousands of people over two decades.
And yet, I’m constantly passed over for someone with a license.
It’s defeating to feel like lived experience — the kind you can’t learn in a classroom — is dismissed in favor of a master’s degree. I’ve done the trainings, taken the classes, read the research, and built programs from the ground up. But because a university didn’t sign off on it, I’m treated as if I don’t know what I’m doing.
If I feel that stigma — someone with long‑term recovery, a proven record of success, and decades of experience — I can only imagine how someone just starting their recovery journey feels. If the system makes me feel “not enough,” what does it do to the people who are walking into treatment for the first time, terrified, ashamed, and unsure if they even deserve help?
These challenges are real. They’re systemic. And they’re exactly why I continue to show up, stay consistent, and advocate for the value of lived experience in this field.
05What values are most important to you in your work and personal life?
The values that matter most to me — in every part of my life — are integrity, acceptance, and non‑judgment. These aren’t just professional principles; they’re the foundation of how I move through the world.
I believe in creating spaces where people feel safe, seen, and accepted exactly as they are. Recovery is vulnerable. It’s messy. It’s full of setbacks, restarts, and moments where people question their own worth. That’s why integrity matters — because people need someone they can trust. Acceptance matters — because people deserve to be met without conditions. And non‑judgment matters — because shame has never healed anyone.
These values guide every decision I make, whether I’m running a group, sitting with someone one‑on‑one, or showing up for the people I love. Everyone deserves dignity. Everyone deserves respect. And everyone deserves a place where they don’t have to earn their humanity, especially when they’re at their most vulnerable.
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