Jenny C. Chalk, Volunteer Online Internship - Music Supervisor on Influential Women

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Jenny C. Chalk

Volunteer Online Internship - Music Supervisor, Confidential

Boston, MA

Certifications · Degrees · Memberships

Degree Berkeley College of Music Degree Online - Music Publishing and Supervision Degree 2014 Degree Harvard University - Master's degree in multidisciplinary program (Law Degree Business Degree Journalism) Degree 2008-2013 Degree Franklin Pierce Law Center - LLM in Intellectual Property Degree 2002-2003 Degree SUNY Buffalo - Master's degree in English Art History Degree 1992 Degree SUNY Buffalo with study abroad at King's College London - Bachelor's degree Degree 1990 Degree Daemen College - Teaching Certification in English Literature K-12 Cert Licensed to practice intellectual property law Cert Board of Education New York State teaching certification in English Literature K-12 Member Copyright Society (past member) Member Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF) - industry conference attendee Member Tribeca Film Festival - industry conference attendee

Her Story

About Jenny

My journey into music publishing and supervision has been anything but linear, and I think that's what makes it meaningful. I started in intellectual property law as a paralegal in major Boston firms, working my way up to become one of the top IP paralegals in the city within just three years. I was the person they called in to make major decisions on patents and trademarks. After attending Franklin Pierce Law Center for my LLM and spending five years at Harvard in a multidisciplinary program combining law, business, and journalism to learn digital publishing, I finally found my way to the creative side of IP that I'd always loved. I studied at Berkeley College of Music online, specializing in music publishing and supervision, while living abroad in Saudi Arabia where I was teaching. Now I run my own business where I do it all - from helping songwriters fine-tune their music to make it more engaging for audiences, to handling all the legal compliance, licensing, and song placement work. I have my own provider account with a Hollywood company, which means I can place my clients' songs in their catalog for potential film and TV placements. Every single artist I've worked with has had some legal issue that I've had to resolve before it became a real problem, and that's exactly why I do this work. I'm not trying to be the next Facebook or build a billion-dollar corporation - I just want to help artists be legally protected and compliant while keeping music human-made in an industry that's being challenged by AI. It's a gamble every time, just like in Hollywood when they make a movie, but if I can help others achieve their goals and contribute to philanthropy through my business, that's what matters to me.

Her Interview

Ten minutes with Jenny

01What do you attribute your success to?

I question that every day because I don't see myself the way others see me - I never feel like I'm doing enough or that I could always be improving. But honestly, I've been really blessed with being raised by a supportive family that helped me do well. My parents were both professors who made education and values a central part of our lives, and my sister did well too, so I had people around me who helped get me through the tough challenges of life. I do think academics has a lot to do with it - I know it's a luxury that not everybody gets a chance to go to college, but having that foundation made a difference. The truth is, I just happened to be lucky. People just saw something in me that I didn't see, and they just kept pushing me higher, higher, higher. I don't know how else to put it - I just happen to be lucky in that way.

02What’s the best career advice you’ve ever received?

The best advice I've carried with me is that I should listen intently and have no assumptions. This hasn't been advice given to me so much as feedback from my experience working in law for decades at major firms. Honestly, probably 95% of the time that people get into legal trouble, whatever the subject matter or situation, it's because they assumed. People love to see what they want to see, or what they're familiar with, out of their own lens, but they may not have any knowledge beyond that. It's easy for people to paint a picture of how they want to see it, but that doesn't mean that's the truth, let alone the facts, let alone the situation. In the music industry, for example, songwriters have this preconceived notion you're supposed to argue with your publisher over the contract - it's sort of a stereotype. Actually, it doesn't have to be that difficult. If people can not play out these stereotypes, not create fictitious stories of how they imagine it would be, and then just listen, it would solve a lot of the problems.

03What advice would you give to young women entering your industry?

After my experience in publishing, I will respect a self-published artist - that's totally up to them - but I do not recommend self-publishing, ever. Absolutely not. There are so many legal snags that can occur, and time and time again, every artist I've worked with so far has had a legal issue that I've had to resolve so that it didn't become a legal issue. People get caught up in the 'oh, it's exciting, it's fun, we're gonna go party, we're gonna dance, we're gonna sing,' and that's great - we need that energy - but they don't understand the process of the legal compliance requirements that the industry requires, and then unknowingly they're breaking them all, or they're infringing on themselves, or they're doing things that they just didn't know. So if I gave advice to young artists who wanted to go into music, it is possible to make it a career if that's what they want. If they're gonna do that, definitely go to music school if they have that luxury, or spend time teaching themselves as much as possible, and then give it a shot. Don't be afraid of going into it, but also understand that it is a gamble and there's no guarantee. Don't set yourself up to feel bad if it doesn't work the way you had hoped.

04What are the biggest challenges or opportunities in your field right now?

The biggest challenge right now in the industry is AI. Hollywood is trying to pick itself up from the writer's strike, the pandemic, the wildfires, the cost of living in California, and now they're dealing with AI on top of all that. They've been totally pummeled in the last 5 or so years with really very challenging circumstances. And on top of that, people are retiring or dying, so they're really trying to hold on as much as they can. This is a really important, critical year because with AI coming in, they're trying to dabble with that and see how it goes. The challenge is, will the United States accept AI as a real possible replacement of all of our jobs, or not? And then how are they going to weave that in to incorporate it, but at the same time, not wipe out the smaller industry? Musicians are going into quote-unquote battle mode to defend their art, and it's gonna stay human-made no matter what happens. They're dividing it - they're gonna have human-made music with a percentage of royalties, they're gonna have AI-made music, they're gonna have hybrid music. And if Congress can get on board and come up with legislation, that's half the battle, but the industries are now feeling like they have to take charge because they can't rely on the government. We're all kind of scared, but we try not to go there. We try to keep taking it one day at a time.

05What values are most important to you in your work and personal life?

I am of an older generation, so I have very strong values that were instilled in me by my grandparents and my family from a very young age, from a different time frame where there was no internet, no social media, none of this stuff, no AI. My lens is I have to create everything, I will treat others as best as I can, as well as I can. I will do my best to try and help others, whatever it takes, within reason. Authenticity is huge for me - honesty, good, bad, ugly, being genuine and original. Integrity and morality are very important to me. I have zero patience or tolerance for stealing ideas or passing oneself off as someone they're not. Things like that really don't sit well with me. I'm very particular about living an organic, eco-friendly, green kind of life - I'm very careful about what I eat, what I wear, I don't put chemicals on my skin. You could call me very earthy, granola, crunchy in that way. And I think we spend way too much in this country focusing on money - it degrades the value of the art. The money becomes more important than the actual art, and I want it to be just the opposite. I want the art to be the focus, which is sort of a dying art in America.

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