Her Story
About Karen
My journey to the legal field was unexpected. I started my career as an addictions counselor and treatment assistant in detox, working with people in recovery. For me, what has always filled my bucket is nurturing and helping folks, and I never thought the legal space could do that for me. A very long-time dear friend whose family was in legal services kept asking me to join them year after year. Her brothers had started a company in their parents' basement in DC in 2001, and by the time I joined, they wanted me in sales, but I said I could never be a used car salesman. So the CEO, my friend's husband, created a legal ops role for me at Driven, overseeing about 21 sales reps, which grew to 31 after a merger. When the culture changed after that merger, I moved to OneDiscovery in 2016 as their senior salesperson, then to another vendor in Nashville, before my current director brought me to Ackerman in Miami almost two and a half years ago. I feel very blessed that I haven't had to interview in so many years because my roles have come through relationships and people saying 'I want to hire you.' The legal space is incredibly large but incredibly small - it's kind of a family, especially here in South Florida. I've found that I can marry this field with my passion for helping people through relationship building and a Simon Sinek approach, making sure people are heard and seen and setting others up for success. When you're authentic and genuine, the ROI will follow without having to ask for it. I've also put myself out there by becoming the Director of Women in eDiscovery for South Florida and getting involved with ASAP, which has been incredibly rewarding because it lets me facilitate connections and mesh together so many areas that are important to me.
Her Interview
Ten minutes with Karen
01What do you attribute your success to?
I attribute my success to staying true to who I am and focusing on relationship building rather than just ROI. I really believe in a Simon Sinek approach - making sure people are heard and seen, and setting others up for success. That will always be my first priority. I think when you do those things and you're authentic and genuine, the other ROI will follow. You don't really have to ask for it. For me, success is measured in so many different ways, not just ROI. It's about really understanding what people are doing, finding out what their pain points are, and really listening. At the end of the day, if I'm helping someone's life become easier and more efficient, then I'm all about it. I've also been blessed that I haven't had to interview in so many years because my roles have come through relationships - people saying 'I want to hire you.' The legal space is incredibly large but incredibly small, and the community here in South Florida is really quite tremendous.
02What advice would you give to young women entering your industry?
Stay true to who they are, really, first and foremost. Make sure that they're doing what they want to do, because that's where their heart of hearts is telling them to go. Don't do it because others want you to, or you're gonna make money, or you're gonna this, because I tend to find that folks that do things that they don't really have a heart for, tend to burn out very easily. They tend to get resentful, they tend to not stay true to who they are, and ultimately, it's gonna feel like a really heavy job for you. You have to understand that when you're in a career, there is work to be done, but at the same token, you have to love what you do.
03What are the biggest challenges or opportunities in your field right now?
One of the biggest challenges is that it's such a large space, but it's also a very small space, and we're all kind of doing the same thing. Specifically for me in eDiscovery at a law firm, having a differentiator is really tough. You have to get incredibly creative. You have to really understand creative pricing models and things like that, because at the end of the day, we're unfortunately all kind of using and selling the same tools. So being able to go in and do a triage of folks' data, what they're using in terms of tools, and being able to sit down with them and really see and hear what they're doing, find out what their pain points are, and really listen - that's critical. I feel like we're still ROI-driven, but you have to set that aside for a moment. You have to really be authentic and go in and just really understand what they have, what they're trying to do, and how we can alleviate some of those pains. That's a big challenge, but it is something I'm passionate about. I do love identifying that from the get-go, and then maybe catering a tool stack for them to make basically their lives easier. There's also the challenge and opportunity around AI - we're trying to iron things out with AI and everything, which has been a little bit daunting.
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