Her Story
About Norma
I started in the insurance industry completely by accident in 1999 after losing a political position and needing to find work. I sent my resume, which literally only had one job on it, blindly to a local carrier. They called me for an interview, and even when they asked me about insurance, I told them I know I have some but I don't really know anything about it. They hired me anyway and put me in the call center answering customer questions. Our CEO Bruce Greenberg met me at a breakfast with new employees and must have clearly saw something in me that I didn't know was there, because he decided to send me to get my license. Once I got my license, I moved into the sales and marketing department and stayed there until the company closed. I've never looked back since being in the industry. I later earned a degree from Ivy Tech in medical assisting and worked clinically for a while, so now I hold that certification as well. I'm currently working on a designation through my current employer to have more letters after my name. As a Senior Employee Benefits Account Manager in a hybrid role, I broker between the employer and the carrier, serving as the employer's mouthpiece. I handle all the renewals, help employers understand their employee benefits, negotiate renewals whenever I can, and guide them on what's the best fit for them. I call it putting it in a pain funnel - tell me what's painful, what you like, what you don't like, how we can fix it, how you've tried to fix it in the past, and why hasn't it worked for you.
Her Interview
Ten minutes with Norma
01What do you attribute your success to?
As a minority woman and Latina working in a predominantly male industry, I come from a blue-collar background where both my parents retired from factory work. Watching both of them work so hard showed me a good work ethic. I've always had my dad in my ear telling me to be independent, and anytime you get an opportunity to learn something, learn it, because no one can ever take that away from you. That's been my drive - to learn anything. If somebody wants to teach me something, I'm right there wanting to learn how to do it. I don't know if I'm ever going to use it, but I might, because that knowledge can't be taken out of my brain. I worked even harder to get that degree when I had my son. My drive and motivators are my family.
02What advice would you give to young women entering your industry?
I would tell her it's not for the weak. You have to have a thick skin and know who you are. Have the biggest family support and the most family support that you can get, because there are days where I look at my husband and I feel broken just from having to deliver large increases to people because you build relationships with them, or trying to make someone understand why a carrier did something. It's getting harder and harder. I would encourage them to shadow somebody. Stand your ground and don't back down, because it's still a heavily male-dominated industry. Some males still try to pat me on the head. Have a thick skin and keep going. Learn everything that somebody wants to teach you. If someone wants to take you under their wing and teach you something, get under there and figure it all out with them. Be inquisitive. Be the one that wants to ask all the questions, even if it's annoying to somebody else.
03What are the biggest challenges or opportunities in your field right now?
The biggest challenges currently are that rates never go down, they always increase, and with inflation, we're trying to figure out how we as brokers can help employers stay relevant in their industry and keep and attract talent as people age out and start to retire. Part of that is the benefits package, which is probably the second biggest expense that an employer has aside from payroll. The challenge is staying on top of anything new that's coming out in the industry, staying educated on the different funding ways that an employer group can fund, and finding ways to save money for them. How do we help them keep employees? The most important thing is teaching them how to save money. So education on all the most up-and-coming things in our insurance world and helping employers save money are the key challenges and opportunities.
04What values are most important to you in your work and personal life?
When you're in a workplace, having your superiors or whoever you report to have your back is extremely important. Flexibility is something else that's also important - a work-life balance. My first job is being a mother and a wife, so that is extremely important to me. Having an employer that understands the work-life balance is a big value to me. Currently where I'm at at Shepherd, that is something that they value a lot as an employer, and they allow the flexibility. Work-life balance, family, and faith are my core values. I just kind of go with God and let Him lead the way.
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