Her Story
About Kathy
My journey into interior design was unexpected. I started at the University of Michigan as a political science and Russian studies major, but my sophomore year I had a blind roommate studying graphic design. Watching what she was doing made me realize I wanted to do something creative instead of struggling with Russian pronunciation. My dad was an architect, and I considered architecture, but I liked interior design better and I'm happy that's the direction I took. I've been in the field since 1989, which is 37 years now. Early in my career, I worked for architectural firms in their design departments, which was my initial goal, but it actually wasn't the part of my career I enjoyed most. I was laid off from an architectural firm a few years in, which led me to work for an interior design and graphic design company - a phenomenal experience. Then I got my MBA and wanted to move into management, so I became a director of design at a furniture dealer. That was a bit controversial at the time and wasn't as smooth a career path as I thought, but it gave me different skills. By the time I opened my own business in 2009, I had seen three sides of the industry - design, working with architectural firms, and selling products and furniture - which most designers don't get to experience. This holistic view made me ready to do it on my own in a way that was more unique than other design firms. We only do commercial work - corporate, university, and healthcare projects, no residential unless it's for an existing client. I work collaboratively with clients in a true partnership where the design reflects what they would have done if they had the tools, rather than being about my own aesthetic. We're really committed to doing the research and providing thoroughly explored solutions. We do a lot of repeat business with the same clients on multiple phases or locations, and all our work comes through word of mouth and referrals.
Her Interview
Ten minutes with Kathy
01What’s the best career advice you’ve ever received?
Very early in my career, I had a boss who told me to trust my instincts. I tend to overthink things a lot - should I do this, playing all the different sides, even with design ideas like 'do you think they'd go with this?' I get caught up spinning on decisions. But this boss said to me, 'trust your instincts, you have really good instincts, and don't get caught up in what's the right answer all the time.' That advice has been really good for me. You don't have to do what's conventional all the time. Sometimes you have a different idea and you kind of know it, but you're afraid to move in that direction. Learning to trust that I'm on the right path instead of constantly second-guessing myself has been invaluable.
02What advice would you give to young women entering your industry?
Definitely find a mentor. When I entered the field, I had a mentor who was my mom's age - she actually knew my mom, it was just a coincidence. She was probably my age at the time and had really good perspective. When you're new to the field, you actually don't know what you don't know yet, so it's really good to have someone to ask. It's also really good to keep yourself flexible. When I came into the business, I was only going to work for an architectural firm in their design department - that was the only route I wanted to take, and I did do that for a number of years. But it actually wasn't the part of my career that I've enjoyed the most. So I think you've got to stay open and get a lot of different experiences. I don't think you need to stay at one firm from the beginning to the end of your career, because you learn a lot along the way. It's a pretty volatile field at times, and most likely almost every designer I've ever met has been at one point furloughed, or fired, or laid off. I think that's actually a good thing - that's what moved me out of the architectural firm and into other experiences. When you move firms, you work with different designers and different managers, and you just get a holistic look at the field, because it's pretty broad.
03What values are most important to you in your work and personal life?
I'm really good at working in a collaborative way with the client, and I value that it's not really about me - it's something that we come at together. We do all commercial design, so everything reflects what the client would have done if they had the tools to do it, instead of being about the designer's own aesthetic. A lot of designers are about their own aesthetic, but I don't need it to be about me. It's more of a service than an art project. We're really committed to doing the research, so anything we do is really sought out professionally and really explored, instead of just giving quick and easy solutions to things. It's more of a partnership with the client, and we do a lot of repeat business because of that - multiple phases, locations, working with the same clients over and over. The integrity of what we're doing is really important to me. I've been a big stickler on that, so we're always doing the right thing for the client. We won't get involved in something where someone's trying to push us in a direction we're not comfortable with. We're pretty selective about the clients, so we don't have to get into situations where we're doing things that we're not comfortable with.
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